On 04 Jul 2014, at 21:59, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
> the H-guy has not vanished.
That depends on what "the H-guy" means.
We have a agree on the definition. I might stop answering as you
calmly don't fear to contradict yourself opportunistically.
> By comp
I don't give a rat's ass about "comp".
It is the major idea we study on this list since years. It is one of
the oldest idea conceive by the scientists on this planet.
> he is in both W and M,
So "the H-guy" is in both W and M but "the H-guy" is not in W and
M. Are you SURE you're a logician?
Again you abstract from the precision given.
The H-guy is in both W and M, from a 3p perspective, and the H-guy is
not in both W and M from any of its first person perspective. Weird?
Perhaps, but consistent and necessary with the definition of the
digital mechanist hypothesis.
> We have already agreed that the Helsinki guy is the guy who is in
Helsinki at the beginning of the experience
I thought the Helsinki guy was the guy who remembered being in
Helsinki, but definitions are arbitrary so fine,
Yes, that one. By comp he survived in both W and M. I think you have
just cut this precision from the paragrph you quoted, but anyway, we
know since step zero that the H-guy doesn't die in the duplication.
but then the Helsinki guy no longer exists at the end of the
experience
It does. Or you just proved that (~ step 3) implies non comp, and thus
comp implies step 3.
or even in the middle. And by the time you read this post the
15517042014 guy (aka John K Clark as he was at 1551 Universal Mean
Time on July 4 2014) will no longer exists.
> By comp we agree that [...]
We? I agree with nothing concerning "comp" because I believe that
homemade word is just vague inconsistent mush.
You contradict step 0, 1. That is you contradict yourself.
> I use comp in the sense of computationalism
No you do not, if you did you'd just call it computationalism
instead of inventing a new word.
comp is just a shorthand.
> that is not what the question was about. It was about which city
you actually see when
I HATE PRONOUNS!!
That is not an argument.
Bruno
John K Clark
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