2014-07-03 21:51 GMT+02:00 John Clark <[email protected]>: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I predict that the H-guy will see Helsinki, unless you destroy him >> immediately after duplication >> >> > That is indeed the case in the step 3 protocol. >> > > Fine, then currently nobody is seeing Helsinki. > >> >> in which case the H-guy will see absolutely nothing. >> >> > Then the H-person dies already at step 1 and 0. >> > > It's just a matter of arbitrary definitions. Is the H-person the guy > currently seeing Helsinki or is he not? If he is and nobody is currently > seeing Helsinki then the Helsinki Man no longer exists and the correct > prediction of what the Helsinki man would see would be oblivion. However if > the Helsinki man is anybody who remembers being the Helsinki Man (a more > useful definition in my opinion) then BOTH the Moscow Man and the > Washington Man are the Helsinki Man and therefore the correct prediction > about what the Helsinki Man would see would have been Moscow AND > Washington. > > > Incidentally, this contradicts the fact that you have already agreed >> that both the W-person and the M-person are genuinely the H-person. >> > > As I say it all depends on what definition "H-person" has. >
I predict liar Clark will see spin up AND spin down... because under MWI MR. LIAR CLARK HAS BEEN DUPLICATED (yes I know it's a nightmare). What does Liar Clark predict ? That he is a monkey arse ? (sorry for the monkeys) > > You assume comp >> > > I don't assume it, I can't assume what I don't understand and your little > homemade term "comp" is nonstandard and is used on this list and nowhere > else. I know what "computationalism" means but "comp" remains as big a > mystery as all those vague personal pronouns, shifting definitions and > peepee floating around. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
