On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I assume comp > Well good for "comp". > I will push on the button, and I know I will not find myself in both > city. > Exactly. > Only in one from my future first person perspective, > There are 2 future first person perspectives. >> If there are two (and there are) why didn't Bruno Marchal ask what >> cities John Clark will see from *a* 1p? >> > >> > > That is the 3p view *on* the future 1-views. > The? why not *a* future 1-view? > The answer will be "W and M". But that is specifically not what is asked > to the guy in Helsinki. He is John Clark hates pronouns! > > questioned about what he > John Clark hates pronouns! > expects from his > John Clark hates pronouns! > future experience, as he knows > John Clark hate pronouns! > that he will not die, John Clark hates pronouns! > in this case the future of the unique first person in Helsinki splits in > two, and thus is indeterminate from its first person point of view. > If it is asked "Is this unmeasured electron spin up or spin down" John Clark understands the question but it can't ve answered because before it is measured the electron's spin is indeterminate, but in this case John can't answer what city "you" will see because John doesn't understand the question. It is claimed that Bruno has discovered something called "first person indeterminacy" that makes it impossible to answer a certain question. Well, what is that question? John Clark needs to know EXACTLY because John Clark is willing to concede that a ambiguous question can not be answered, but Bruno wasn't the first to figure that out. And speaking of predictions John Clark predicts that when Bruno Marchal states the question in the next post it will be filled with words that are ambiguous in a world with duplicating machines, words like "I" and "he" and "you". John Clark further predicts that it will contain phrases like "the Helsinki Man" without having made clear if that means remembering being a man in Helsinki or if it means a man currently experiencing Helsinki. > if I interview a sample of copies, the vast majority will confess not > finding any prediction algorithm > That's because no known algorithm can figure out exactly what the question was. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
