PGC, I am not being critical of Bruno. I just do not understand what he is saying. My understanding is that if comp is correct, it is both 3p and 1p correct.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Craig, >>> >>> You still talk like if I pretended that computationalism is true. I >>> don't do that, ever. >>> But you *do* pretend that computationalism is false, and I am waiting >>> for an argument. I refuted already your basic argument, which mainly assert >>> that it is obvious, but this is true already for the machine's first person >>> point of view, and so cannot work as a valid refutation of comp. >>> >>> Bruno >>> >>> >>> >> Bruno, Are you saying that comp is false for the machine's 1p POV? I find >> your paragraph rather confusing. >> Richard >> > > Not in some normative sense that you could be implying; as in "comp is > wrong/bad to believe for machine". > > For sufficiently rich machine, from their 1p point of view, comp entails > set of 1p beliefs so sophisticated, that it would be consistent for such > machine to assert things like: "What me? A mere machine? No way, I'm much > more high level/smarter/complex than that. Therefore comp must be false." - > Which ISTM is what Craig keeps asserting, in authoritative sense going even > much further: insisting that we believe him, without going non-comp in some > 3p verifiable way. > > Don't know if I grasp your understanding/question though. PGC > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
