On 28 Jul 2014, at 12:14, LizR wrote:
On 28 July 2014 22:07, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
So do we recognise this thing called a "self" or a "subject" or a
"person" or a "soul" or an "I" or a whatever as something that is
TOTALLY independent of the hosting apparatus?
Why should I put up with the ridiculous notion that my brain
secretes my mind which somehow projects my "person"? I don't believe
that for one nanosecond. I am only here to enjoy the ride. If it
turns out that physical reality is where the buck stops then I am
horribly bored by reality. What could possibly be more boring than a
bunch of atoms smugly believing that they are "real" and that
everything that is, must be made from them? What if I don't want to
be made from atoms?
I applaud the sentiment, if not the logic. It does seem awfully
boring to just be a pile of molecules.
To defend the materialist (for a change), we might be, more than a
pile of molecules, we are a colony of bacteria and protozoans (sort
of), which are themselves sort of colony of macromolecules, with
complex relation with each other.
Then with comp, "we" are more in the structure itself, as we can
change the atoms, and remain the same (in both the 1p and 3p self-
views).
And both in comp, and in Everett-QM, our bodies are more an infinite
cloud of 3p finite "structured atoms piles", but the 1p can't feel it
that way. he feels unique, and *is* unique, from its first person view.
Bruno
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