On 8/7/2014 5:03 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:18 AM, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:On 8/5/2014 4:23 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:On the other hand, you talk about "usefulness" in a very narrow sense. What makes life bearable in this weird reality we find ourselves in is very personal. We all have our different ways and different questions that we would like to answer, maybe. It essentially cuts off any avenue of help. No it doesn't! It doesn't follow from "a certain theory of consciousness provides no help for Alzheimer" that "there is no possibility of help for Alzheimer".When you refer to what makes life bearable is very personal seems to identify "life" with "consciousness", since that is what is very personal. Yes. When I said a theory of consciousness that makes it independent of all external interactions cuts off all avenues of help, I meant help for those personal experiences. Kim even went so far as to suggest that, in spite of external appearances, those with Alzheimers might be perfectly happy and content and there is no need to try to help.A priori I would prefer not to have Alzheimers, so if it can be cured I would cure it. I fully support research in that direction and I am sure I would be devastated if a loved one started suffering from it. But that may be selfish indeed. None of us know how it feels to have Alzheimers. I would apply the golden rule (do as I wanted done to me) because Alzheimers makes it impossible to apply the better version: so as they would like done to them.The trouble with such a theory is that it applies as well to those apoplectic with rage or sobbing in sorrow - maybe they're really happy, we just can't know. But in this case you can ask them.
That doesn't help. Their response is a mere external 3p phenomenon. We can't know what is in their consciousness.
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