On Tue, Oct 14, 2014  spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> John,  Instead of God, what do you propose as a substitute for all the
> awful suffering you have accurately, cited?


That's asking a awful lot of me, I don't have a solution that will
eliminate the suffering in the world. I wish I did.  If I were God I would
have made extreme pain a physical impossibility, but unfortunately I didn't
get the job.

> Marx said that religion is an opiate for the people,
>

And like opium religion is not a good long term solution to sorrow; for
every person who is made happier contemplating the pleasures of heaven
there are 10 made more unhappy contemplating the tortures of Hell. And then
you've got millions of people saying they will kill you right now if you
don't love God X and renounce all other Gods, and millions more saying they
will kill you right now if you don't love God Y and renounce all other
Gods. And both are saying their kind and merciful God will torture you for
all of eternity if you don't love Him, even though there is absolutely
nothing lovable about either of them.

> What'dya think of Brian May?
>

I think you mean Brian Cox, he said " There is naivety in just saying
there’s no God" but he doesn't say why it's naive except to say that some
very very smart people have believed in God; and that's true. I think it's
true because most people, perhaps even most very smart people, tend to
believe what their mommy and daddy told them into adulthood, stuff they
were told before they were potty trained. There is no other explanation for
the enormously strong correlation between deeply held religious belief and
geography.

  John K Clark

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