On Thursday, January 8, 2015 5:02:55 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 07 Jan 2015, at 22:54, John Mikes wrote:
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> Dear Bruno, allow me NOT to copy your post (and mine!) just picking parts 
> for reflections. Thanks for recognising my post. 
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> *"Prohibition is enough to kill capitalism, and democracy in the long 
> run."*
> I argued that there is no such thing as that darn 'democracy' - so how 
> should prohibition (and what kind of?) kill it?
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> May be you mean by democracy= "ideal working democracy". Then I can 
> understand it does not exist. But I defined democracy by the more modest 
> system in which people can vote every 4 yours. thats surely exist. I am 
> living in one.
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> By prohibition, I meant prohibition of medication, like alcohol, or 
> cannabis, or heroïn, or ...
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> *"Working more and more, for less and less money, that is the problem."*
> One of them. The bank CEO with a horrendous pay is also culprit for all 
> the vices called 'democracy' (in US: capitalism!). Money is a fantastic 
> invention.
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> It is the most efficacious way to distribute wealth and works. Without it, 
> I would not have been abale to do math as a job. 
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> Money is not a problem, but becomes once when it is based on lies. In that 
> case it create quickly a social cancer which can kill the democracy.
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> I deny the "48%" voting result just as e.g. a 50.1% - the 'voters' (the 
> part of the authorized populace who indeed cast a vote) are misinfomed and 
> gullible - a reason why MONEY (and lies?) can buy the votes (see: US 
> system). 
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> Yes, in the UD system, there is too much financial lobbying, and that 
> seems to be part of the problem, although I tend to believe that the 
> problem has started with prohibition of alcohol (and then medication).
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> If a 'swing'-minority can make a 'majority' power that does not improve 
> the situation from false to true. Let me skip an analysis of a bi-national 
> kingdom,  or an authoritarian-powered religious state. Maybe another time.
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> Your exhortation about the questins of democracy sounds to me like a pius 
> wish-dream. Nobody (so far) could change the systems of the powerful by 
> reason. 
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> I like your bon-mot about the blood/cancer. I try to talk common sense.
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> What would you suggest in place of a democracy?
>

How about answer his criticism/challenge. Are you willing to stand here and 
claim that you gave the courage to speak truth to  power? That you don't 
toe the line, and turn a blind eye precisely where power draws all its 
little red lines. 

By the way, those little red lines, are not allowed to even be spoken of, 
and must be denied. But obeyed. Denied and obeyed.

So that's what I call pretty damn "Freedom Was Lost". 

What are you going to say to this? Because I watch you obey those lines. 

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