On Sun, Jan 11, 2015  'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
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 >>> So then by your argument, defecating in holy water for example would
>>> be a defensible act?
>>
>>
>> >> That would be a public health issue not a freedom of the press issue,
>>  I have no objection to laws regulating where you can and can not defecate.
>
>
> > Such a literalist; aren’t you?
>

Ah.., I'm not entirely sure what figurative defecation is, my Shakespeare
appreciation course didn't cover that topic.


> > I take it then that Mr. Clark is okay with any degree of insult,
> including the use of racial and ethnic stereotypes.
>

If by "okay" you mean "I think it should be allowed" then yes, if you mean
"I agree with" then it depends, not all ethnic stereotypes are worthless,
for example: If I were to bet you that a Arab Muslim picked at random is
more likely than a Canadian picked at random to have views that were more
common in 9th century than the 21th century I would probably make money and
you would probably loose money. In fact I could make a good living making
bets of that sort.


> > Is this to be just reserved for Muslims


NO!!


> > or are all religions including Christianity and Judaism to be insulted
> and caricatured


Yes. YES! YES!!


> > I feel bad when anybody is murdered John,
>

I doubt it.

> even fools who made sure they pissed all over a whole bunch of other
> people
>

I think you're far more upset that 17 people drew some cartoons you don't
like than the fact that they got murdered by religious dimwits for doing
so.



> >> And the person who posted them on that other group was no doubt also
>> offended by them and posted them for the same reason that you posted them
>> to this group, out of a generous desire to share a delicious feeling moral
>> indignation and self righteousness with fellow list members.
>>
>
>
> > John you seem to have a habit of engaging in baseless conjecture; you
> insinuate.
>

You say the cartoons are racist and you hate the people who published them,
and yet you help to make sure they are more widely seen. For some reason
that seems a little odd to some people.

> John in case you didn’t know there is a whole lot of murder going on in
> the world.
>

And a cartoon will never be a good reason for killing any of them.

> A hell of a lot more than 17 people were murdered last year.


And if you can't stop all murders you shouldn't try to stop any of them.


> > Just the number of people murdered in random shootings in the US alone
> dwarfs this number. Yet, this is the mass murder that gets you riled up.
>

That's because random murders are, well, random;  but this is not random
and it is pushing society in one particular direction, a direction that I
don't like very much. You're not the only craven Muslim apologist to come
out of the woodwork in the last few days, there was a recent editorial in
the London Finical Times that you probably would like a lot; it said that
while the 17 murders were unfortunate it was foolish of them to draw those
cartoons, it didn't exactly say they had it coming and you didn't exactly
say that either but you both came close. Then the editorial said that the
thing we should learn from this is to always be careful and think twice or
three times before we say write or draw anything to make sure it won't
upset Muslim morons. As for me, I thing that to a coward heroism always
looks foolish.

>>  Yes I was offended, but as I said before being offended doesn't seemed
>> to have caused me any harm, and I rather doubt that many on this list care
>> if I was offended or not. But never mind me it's different for you,  I am
>> certain all list members would be fascinated and would consider it of world
>> shaking importance to hear all about the latest thing that Chris de
>> Morsella finds offensive.
>>
>
> >  There you go again descending to the level of ad hominem insult – the
> hallmark of a weak argument, poor imagination and limited intellect.
>

I submit for the list's perusal a few exquisite examples from Mr. Chris de
Morsella's very recent posts illustrating the depth of his opposition to ad
hominem insults:

"your pomposity has a certain well known smell John that most people find
quite offensive."

"your attitude is actually rather stupid."

"your own ignorant loud mouth that uttered that rich piece of utter
ignorance."

"you are demonstrating this stubborn stupidity."

"grow up you four year old child."

"you are quite the pompous ass and excel at being obnoxious… any other
hidden talents, you arrogant twat?"

"The hot air of your pure polemic is like a fart John.. .you may feel
better having it out of you, but everyone else turns their noses. Please
find some place private to fart."

"you have pure unadulterated bullshit for brains."

"Imagine that your Alzheimer riddled brain preserved forever…. An amusing
thought for me the thought still cracks me up with laughter… imagine how
wrong your carefully laid plans could go…. You set up this one way ticket
to eternity… then, unfortunately you do not die, but instead grow into a
vegetative Alzheimer riddled sponge of your former pompous loud mouthed
self…. And only then after your brain has fully and completely rotted into
a plaque ridden mush does nature finally do the kindness of killing you off
– to preserve your Alzheimer destroyed brain for all time. It actually
cracks me up dude… nothing personal, I frankly don’t give a rats ass what
happens to your precious brain, just find the thought of your so carefully
laid plans going so totally haywire to be a source of some laughter for me"

  John K Clark

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