On 13 Jan 2015, at 20:27, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 12 Jan 2015, at 16:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Quentin Anciaux
<[email protected]> wrote:
But if you don't want to believe it... fine. What I say is that I'm
relieve to be an ex canabis addict, and that over usage didn't help
me at all and certainly if not the cause did enhance the problem...
do what you want with that.
I will: your history is not 3p fact. You pretend it is and base
statements concerning nature of global prohibition on this, for
which you repeatedly deliver no evidence. "Mafia" does not
conclusively include the diverse and complex mechanisms of how
people extract profit from prohibition. "Gangster" might, but this
is so general it is worthless, except maybe in pub conversation.
The studies you cite are based on authority of mental health
prohibitionists who have financial interest to control psychoactive
study and debunked correlation: their job security. You appear
naive on the effect of prohibition here.
Old news/propaganda. So yes, you appear to use prohibitionist type
"argument" and their "science". PGC
Actually, the papers you find by google on "depression and cannabis"
are not that bad: the one i read all conclude that their sample are
not big enough to conclude anything.
Psychiatrist and mental health sector do not consider Cannabis for
PTSD as treatment possibility for example.
If for every 50 studies made on correlation with depression,
anxiety, schizophrenia etc. there was one made on checking for
effectivity in PTSD treatment or for effects of various methods of
vaporization... then you can begin to convince me on this.
Good point.
But the state of affairs with prescription medication system on
which psychiatry rests, wherein we treat with medications far more
dangerous than cannabis routinely, does not convince me that raising
these type of correlation questions to stigmatized conditions
(depression, anxiety etc.) is innocent scientific questioning. This
is begging on institutional level, benefiting more the
psychiatrists' publication history and their expensive treatment
models, than anything else.
I agree. I was a bit sarcastic.
If not, then where are the studies on psychiatric benefits of
Cannabis and the medical institutions prescribing them?
There is a lot of power in merely posing the question; even when
"sample size is insufficient for conclusion". Who cares, the
headline is made? I do, so I fund efforts to conduct that research.
There is red tape everywhere in this process and such studies do
more harm than good. PGC
Yes. I eventually found one saying not just "our samples are too
small", but saying "despite our samples are too small this suggests
that ...", which is only a propaganda trick: "we have no proof but we
will still propagate the rumor".
I respect Quentin personal testimony, though, and it is nice he
stopped to use cannabis if he felt it is not good for him. I have
myself some problem with cannabis, but this is due to a rare medical
condition, which unfortunately makes all long term muscular relaxants
bad for me (like cannabis, but also alcohol, benzodiazepine, LSD,
basically all relaxant, which seems to always relax the muscles for a
long time, except salvia which lasts only five minutes, thanks God
(well, it is not so much a relaxant, also).
Bruno
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