OOPs Should written 8 not 10. Changed my mind about the words without
changing the number.
Brent
On 3/1/2015 3:08 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 3/1/2015 2:58 PM, LizR wrote:
On 2 March 2015 at 11:12, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>>
wrote:
On 3/1/2015 1:39 PM, LizR wrote:
If Bruno uses God to mean an origin, perhaps he should call it 0 (zero)
or { }
- the empty set?
I think he wants to mean the underlying basis of everything, not just a
beginning,
but a sustaining basis - and he doesn't believe in set theory or doesn't
believe it
is basis enough. As Kronecker said, "Die ganze Zahl schuf der liebe Gott,
alles
Übrige ist Menschenwerk." At a gut level I think he wants to poke the eye
of some
atheists who rejected his thesis. Otherwise he could easily use "The One" or
aperion or quintessence other theologically neutral terms.
Yes. His idea is timeless anyway, so it couldn't really be a temporal beginning. Maybe
it should be "Logic" (and he could throw in a homage to Leonard Nimoy)
I am not sure what evidence there is for a creator, but even if there
is such
evidence that doesn't answer the question at the top of the thread -
"Why is
there something rather than nothing?" It just changes it to "Why is
there a
creator?"
He thinks arithmetic is logically necessary and therefore whatever
satisfies its
existence predicate is what exists.
Yes. I have to admit I like this idea because it's the only thing I've ever come across
that actually works on this basis (being logically necessary). Otherwise the universe
is just a brute fact - which of course it may be.
Until you reflect that logic is just about relations between concepts we made up - so
maybe "logically necessary" isn't so necessary after all. I find it interesting that a
lot of "logically necessary" truths were contradicted by quantum mechanics: Nothing can
be in two places at the same time. Two things can't be in the same place at the same
time. The truths of arithmetic seem to me to be the same way. The number of letter in
"this" word plus the number of letters in "that" word is 10 because each has 5 letters.
Or is it only 5: t h i s a ? It depends on how you conceptualize "letters"; are they
marks on the paper or are those marks on tokens of the Platonic letters?
Brent
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