So do you have a point, apart from "we don't know everything" ? On 13 March 2015 at 10:20, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Liz: the only 'nit' I am 'picking' is agnosticism in the sense that we > like to draw conclusions on the partial image of the existence (Nature?) > that so far transpired to us. > If an 'evolutionary theory' includes only events when nothing goes wrong, > (i.e.: events leading to massive extinctions OUT!) it is not what we > should 'pick'. > Maybe I still did not recover from my very early understanding of > evolution when it meant (to me) to evolve towards some 'higher > sandard/format' (or call it as you wish) and I saw it as some teleological > aberration.. > Your definition (thanks) still implies a 'better adoption' to some (still) > incomplete view. > I salute your "it's possible". > John M > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:47 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 12 March 2015 at 14:14, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> No kidding!!!! the dinosaur and company was extinct in the midst of >>> their utmost fittnes for survival. >>> >> >> No kidding. Although I have no idea why you're making a big deal of this, >> presumably you know all this stuff. But to recap - evolution is a process >> through which organisms gradually become better adapted to living in their >> environment through differential reproductive success. As I mentioned, it's >> possible that consciousness helps increase the chances of that success. >> Also, clearly, massive extinction events are outside the purview of >> evolutionary theory - but so what? You appear to be nitpicking, or rather >> not even that since so far you don't appear to have actually picked any. >> >> >>> (Don't even mention *ALL* the domains of fittness - we cannot know >>> beyond the limitations of our so far achieved model of the world what ELSE >>> may be around, so conclusions are illusorical.) >>> >> >> I have no idea what you're talking about. >> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:04 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12 March 2015 at 13:52, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That sure would mean "surviving benefit" - where does the term >>>>> "evolutionary" come from and why? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Evolution is reasonably well described as the survival of the fittest. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
