On 14 Mar 2015, at 20:59, John Mikes wrote:
LizR:
Consciousness, in my vocabulary sounds like: Response to Relations,
not a mental awarness in thinking/living creatures.
Response to relation looks like Behaviorism, that is pure 3p.
Consciousness usually denote the first person awareness.
Your views may be correct, if you accept conclusions drawn in the
name of the present science upon the incomplete circumstances we
already know of. Including Ccness as some mental awareness in living
minds. Your 'evolutionary advantages' are triggered - maybe
including - effects from so far even unreceived domains.
Similarly I would think twice to call an extinction 'devolutionary'.
My statement stays: I don't know.
Nobody knows. The question is always, what do you believe?
A tyranosaure - even with terrific 'enthusiasm' - could not resist
to starving.
I accept your denigratory opinion rather than being part of a
contemporary science - cheating/lying (theorizing?) based upon
denied ignorance.
Your humble agnostix
Denied ignorance is very bad, but what about the accepted ignorance?
Then we can do all the theories we want, without ever taking ourselves
too much seriously.
If we use ignorance to forbid the theorizing then we will certainly
learn nothing.
Bruno
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:47 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
On 13 March 2015 at 10:39, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't know.
JM
PS did I promise to solve the problems? Telling one's opinion is a
free right, even w/o being obliged to redress things. I fought
against reductionists and faithfuls,
now I simply speak my mind. J.
That's OK, of course. My problem is that I couldn't understand what
you were trying to say, so you didn't actually even manage to "tell
your opinion". It just looked like random sniping with no actual
meaning. (Maybe it was?)
Anyway, my original point still stands. Consciousness may confer
some evolutionary advantage. (e.g. a sense of self may mean an
organism responds to threats and so on with greater enthusiasm that
it would if operating on reflex).
Any sensible objections / refutations welcome.
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