On 3/12/2015 2:47 PM, LizR wrote:
On 13 March 2015 at 10:39, John Mikes <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I don't know.
    JM
    PS did I promise to solve the problems? Telling one's opinion is a free 
right, even
    w/o being obliged to redress things. I fought against reductionists and 
faithfuls,
    now I simply speak my mind. J.

That's OK, of course. My problem is that I couldn't understand what you were trying to say, so you didn't actually even manage to "tell your opinion". It just looked like random sniping with no actual meaning. (Maybe it was?)

Anyway, my original point still stands. Consciousness may confer some evolutionary advantage. (e.g. a sense of self may mean an organism responds to threats and so on with greater enthusiasm that it would if operating on reflex).

Any sensible objections / refutations welcome.

I think a sense of self in the sense of having an internal map of where you are is pretty low level consciousness. I don't think such a map is needed for enthusiasm. Enthusiasm of reaction might be more a matter of reflexive adrenaline production. A slightly higher level of consciousness would include a cultural map: what do others think of me? This would be useful to animals that cooperate, e.g. wolves, dolphins,... And one way to implement this is the model others on oneself: What would I think of me if I were in his shoes?

But these are already well above (on the evolutionary tree) what Graziano is talking about. He's just talking about awareness. Allocating limited resources of attention to this rather than that.

Brent

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