On 11 May 2015 at 03:47, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09 May 2015, at 04:59, LizR wrote:
>
> If the computation isn't classical, and can't be made classical, then comp
> fails at step 0
>
>
> But the concept of computation is classical. We need classical logic to
> say that phi_i(j) converges on not.
>
> Quantum computation does not violate Church Thesis, and is not a threat to
> computability theory, even if it is a threat to human computers society
> which does not invest in quantum computing (perhaps).
>
> Yes, I wasn't saying "if the computation can't be made classical" meaning
"if it's a quantum computation" - in fact I meant the opposite. I know a qc
can be made classical. I mean if it can't be made classical at all (in
which case it's magic, or at least contains an oracle or hypercomputer)
then comp fails. But I doubt it can easily be made non-classical, which
would need non-Turing-complete physics I imagine.

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