On Tue, Jul 14, 2015  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​> ​
> when the Helsinki guy is in the two cities, BOTH feels to be in once place.
>

​Yes, and one place plus

one place equals two places. ​


> ​> ​
> You interpret like if we were asking where the first person experience are
> from a third person point of view, in which case you would be correct
>

​
I don't even know what a
​ ​
first person experience from a third person point of view
​ is.​

> ​>>​
> ​Then "he" will see BOTH  cities! End of story. ​
>
>
> ​> ​
> In the eyes of God, but the question is asked about what he, the guy in
> helsinki, will feel,
>

​Today the guy in Helsinki feels like the guy in Helsinki, tomorrow the guy
in Helsinki means whoever remembers being the guy in Helsinki yesterday,
and you said there are now 2 people who remember that, and they are in
different cities. So if 2 cities is not the correct answer to the question
"how many cities will the guy in Helsinki see?" you're going to need to
change the meaning of "the guy in Helsinki". ​



> ​> ​
> and children already get the point
>

​Professional logicians ​are supposed to be more rigorous in their use of
logic than children, but you are not.

> ​>
>>> ​>> ​
>>> ​after duplication he (both "he") will see only one city.
>>
>>
> ​>> ​
> ​SO WHAT?​
>
> ​Each "he" will see one, both will see 2,
>
> ​> ​
> Come on. "Both" is not a person.
>

​Why not? If the Helsinki Man has been duplicated then ​both is a person,
if not then the Helsinki Man has NOT been duplicated.

​ I admit that both being a person is odd, but odd is not the same as
logically contradictory.   ​

​>> ​
>> and you just agreed that "The Helsinki Man" is both,
>
>
> ​> ​
> But not at once. That's the point you forget to take into account.
>

​There was a delay between the appearance of the Moscow Man and the
appearance of the Washington Man? ​

  John K Clark

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