On 30 Jul 2015, at 02:06, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
> if he [Bruno] slips back to talking like a normal
person you have this shitty argument ready to deploy.
Normal language doesn't work worth a damn if people duplicating
machines are involved; precise language is a necessity and so is
precise reasoning. At this point there is simply no excuse to
continue to babble about "you" and " the 1p", especially if it's
coming from a logician.
You just beg the question. Starting from your correct belief that a 1p
will be in both places, you forget (or fake to forget) that *from*
those 1p views, they will feel a dissymmetry, and they will feel both
unique in a unique city. When we ask to predict the 1p experience, the
"the" refers to that unique experience that both copies will live with
certainty.
You have just use the same invalid reasoning based on ... just not
listening to the simple question asked, which is about the 1p
experience as seen from the 1p experience, not just the 3p description
of all available 1p experiences.
By using a bifurcating road to handle this case, Chris Peck recently
illustrated he made the same error of not taking the first person
experience into account at the very start, as road have no 1p
experiences a priori.
With that kind of threatening of the UDA, I think I can sleep very
well. But by repeating all the time the same obvious mistake, you do
look more and more like a boring and pathetic troll, to be frank.
Bruno
John K Clark
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:12 AM, John Clark <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> The question is asked to any entity, or machines, before they
undergo a duplication. The question is: what do you expect to live.
The question is why does Bruno Marchal absolutely insist
on using personal pronouns even when duplication machines makes them
so obviously ambiguous?
The question is, why does he still waste time with this discussion.
Nouns are also ambiguous. Human language relies on context, it
assumes some intelligence on the listener. Otherwise it would be
really hard to say anything. Bruno has gone through the trouble of
removing ambiguity over and over again, but if he slips back to
talking like a normal person you have this shitty argument ready to
deploy. You are not arguing in good faith and you never gave the
idea a chance. You just want to show that Bruno is an idiot. Why you
devote so much time to that effort, I don't know. It's weird.
This mailing list used to be interesting.
> what do expect to write in your personal diary
To complete the experiment after the duplication Bruno Marchal
needs to find the person, the one unique person, who wrote all that
stuff in the diary. How does
Bruno Marchal intend to do that?
John K Clark
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