On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:19:00AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 31 Aug 2015, at 00:42, Russell Standish wrote: > > >On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:34:18PM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> > > > >>I guess that you remember that I am not yet convinced by your > >>argument that ants are not conscious, as it relies on anthropic use > >>of the Absolute Self-Sampling Assumption (ASSA) which I prefer to > >>avoid because the domain of its statistic is not clear to me. (I am > >>not impressed by the doomsday argument for the same reason). > >> > > > >Yes, I've heard that a lot. "I'm not impressed" = "It sounds like a > >crock of shit, but I can't put my finger on why". > > > >Probably the best way forward is to put forward a toy model showing > >the anthropic argument failing, and then the mechanism is clear. > > It does not fail. It can explain some of the geography by bayesian > reasoning, but it can't explain the difference between physical > laws, and local physical/geographical fact. For the lwas, we have to > find something which does not depend on anything particular above > being Turing universal or Löbian. >
I'm in agreement with your comments here, however I fail to see the connection with the doomsday argument, or my anthropic ants argument, as these are fundamentally about geography (in one case about how long humans might be here on Earth, and the other about the consciousness of certain Earthling creatures). Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
