On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:55 PM, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> It wasn't their land either until they conquered whoever was there before >> them. The "prime directive" was to not interfere in another culture...it >> didn't say anything about replacing it. Should the Spaniards have >> "respected" the human sacrifice religions of the Aztecs. Were we wrong to >> interfere in the Nazi culture of killing Jews and Gypsies? Do we have so >> little confidence in our own culture that we can't tell superstition from >> reason? >> > > Well said. And I agree > > with the Hawaiians on one thing, > > Mouna Kea is > > indeed > > a very special place, > > but it's > > so special it > > belongs to the entire human race and is not the exclusive property of > > one particular > > tribe of anti scientific dimwits. On the > > Earth there are > > only 3 places > > that > > have good enough seeing conditions for a > > thirty meter telescope, > > Mouna Kea, > > the Atacama desert in Chile, and > > Dome C in > > Antarctica. As far as off earth is concerned it will be many decades > before a thirty meter telescope can be built in space, the Hubble is only > 2.4 meters > > in diameter, the thirty meter telescope, > > if it had been > > built, > > could > > have > > seen > > things 156 times dimmer > > than what the Hubble can see; but the wonders it could have told us about > are denied to us thanks to religious native Hawaiians and > > Mother Fucking Earth and Father Fucking Sky. > > > This is the Everything List, we're supposed to be interested in the > ultimate nature of reality, > Look, I wish they would build the telescope. I also wish that people would stop wasting resources with wars so that we could instead dedicate our lives to explore space, build virtual realities, figure our how the brain works, do more science and art and who knows what else. I thought you were the hard-headed realist. Wishing for these things won't make it happen, nor will insulting your opponent. We are all stuck here in this hell of human nature. Maybe we could figure out a way to escape that condition. Calling religious people morons isn't cutting it. Maybe it makes you feel better, but surely you realize it's pointless? > and one group of people thinks the best way to do that is to "bow down to > the mountain" > Sure, this is exactly what I was suggesting. > and the other group thought the best way was to build a thirty meter > telescope on top of that mountain. You have to decide which group deserves > your respect and which group you want to be associated with. I've made my > choice. > Telmo. > > John K Clark > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
