Fourth State of Water
 http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.167802

 http://www.gizmag.com/fourth-state-of-water/42999/

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Based upon my reading of the Quran so far, I would consider LIFE or ALIVE
> to be that which contains a NAFS.
>
> *NAFS*
> From the little that I understand yet, NAFS is a physical object. Sleep is
> a sort of a brief-death, in which the body-machine is still running. It
> states in the Quran that God takes the NAFS of all when they sleep, and
> those upon whom death is decreed, their NAFS is not returned.
> The NAFS has the ability to suggest, and three forms have been described
> in the Quran:
> The NAFS-e-AMMARRA is the SELF which urges us to evil [
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/12/53/]
> The NAFS-e-LAWAMMA is the SELF which we speak of as our conscience [
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/75/2/]
> The NAFS-e-MUTMAINNA is the SELF who's conscience is clear and is
> satisfied and contented with God, and God is pleased with this SELF. [
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/89/27/]
>
> [Quran 50:16-18, Translator: Sahih International] And We have already
> created man and know what his soul* whispers to him, and We are closer to
> him than [his] jugular vein When the two receivers receive, seated on the
> right and on the left. Man does not utter any word except that with him is
> an observer prepared [to record].
> * soul= the Arabic word used in the verse is NAFS
> http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=50
>
> *DEATH & RECORD *
> The longer death, which we believe will end upon resurrection, occurs when
> the Angel(s) of Death extracts the thing which contains our entire recorded
> life-data from our neck, as mentioned in the following verses:
>
> [Al-Qur’an 17:13-15, translator: Sahih International] And [for] every
> person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him
> on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open.
>  [It will be said], "Read your record. Sufficient is yourself against you
> this Day as accountant.” Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit
> of] his soul*. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of
> burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We
> sent a messenger.
> * soul= the Arabic word used in the verse is NAFS
> http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=17
>
> [Al-Qur’an 56:83-87, translator: Literal (word by word)] Then why not when
> it reaches the throat, And you (at) that time look on, And We (are) nearer
> to him than you but you (do) not see, Then why not, if you are not to be
> recompensed, Bring it back, if you are truthful.
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/56/83/
>
>
> *ALTERNATE BIOCHEMISTRY *
> Of course, LIFE is or will be more than carbon-based. I've tried to
> understand the following verse in this blogpost Alternate Biochemistry [
> http://signsandscience.blogspot.ca/2015/03/alternate-biochemistry.html]:
> [Al-Qur’an 56:60-62, translator: Sahih International] We have decreed
> death among you, and We are not to be outdone In that We will change your
> likenesses and produce you in that [form] which you do not know. And you
> have already known the first creation, so will you not remember?
> http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=56
>
> However, all LIFE contains water as an essential component:
> Do not see those who disbelieved that the heavens and the earth were a
> joined entity, then We parted them and We made from [the] water every
> living thing? Then will not they believe?
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/21/30/
>
> And present to them the example (of) the life (of) the world, like water
> which We send down from the sky, then mingles with it (the) vegetation (of)
> the earth then becomes dry stalks, it (is) scattered (by) the winds. And
> Allah over every thing (is) All Able.
> http://islamawakened.com/quran/18/45/
>
> I think that similar to the way we use electricity to code, record and
> transfer, water serves the same purpose in creation. There is emerging
> research in the properties of water, such as memory. This field of study is
> termed Digital Biology. I think our understanding will be radically changed
> once we begin to understand what all can be done with water.
>
> Hope the above helps.
> Samiya
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In addition to the "topic" of this note I do not ask about the ORIGIN of
>> life as posted, rather ask about an identification what YOU would consider
>>       * "LIFE"????*
>> I hope you are not caught within the terrestrial trap of C-based BIO
>> cop-outs.
>> (Nor the tribal superstition assigned reply about "a gift of God").
>>
>> I would prefer (really?) a reply like* "CHANGE* (whatever), effectuated
>> by Cc (consciousness, what I define as RESPONSE to RELATIONS, whatever -
>> and in what respect they may arise). I would not restrict either Life, nor
>> Cc to the (humanly) physically described world and have a hard time to
>> separate the two terms.
>> We have but a tiny insight into the infinite complexity (Entirety) so we
>> have no idea - as per now -  what domains and what 'relations' may come
>> into play.
>> I do not propose my thoughts to be accepted and do not want to argue FOR
>> them at present.
>>
>> I am seeking a reply (correction, addition, negative reply, etc.) which
>> then I can use to the betterment of my thinking.
>>
>> John Mikes
>>
>> We have but a ti
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/27/2016 8:15 AM, John Clark wrote:
>>>
>>> But the question I really want an answer to is why faith is considered
>>> by God, or by anyone for that matter, to be a virtue and not a vice.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would a leader teach that unthinking faith in his goodness and
>>> knowledge is a virtue?  Hmmm...the answers right on the tip of my tongue....
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
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