Fourth State of Water http://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.116.167802
http://www.gizmag.com/fourth-state-of-water/42999/ On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote: > Based upon my reading of the Quran so far, I would consider LIFE or ALIVE > to be that which contains a NAFS. > > *NAFS* > From the little that I understand yet, NAFS is a physical object. Sleep is > a sort of a brief-death, in which the body-machine is still running. It > states in the Quran that God takes the NAFS of all when they sleep, and > those upon whom death is decreed, their NAFS is not returned. > The NAFS has the ability to suggest, and three forms have been described > in the Quran: > The NAFS-e-AMMARRA is the SELF which urges us to evil [ > http://islamawakened.com/quran/12/53/] > The NAFS-e-LAWAMMA is the SELF which we speak of as our conscience [ > http://islamawakened.com/quran/75/2/] > The NAFS-e-MUTMAINNA is the SELF who's conscience is clear and is > satisfied and contented with God, and God is pleased with this SELF. [ > http://islamawakened.com/quran/89/27/] > > [Quran 50:16-18, Translator: Sahih International] And We have already > created man and know what his soul* whispers to him, and We are closer to > him than [his] jugular vein When the two receivers receive, seated on the > right and on the left. Man does not utter any word except that with him is > an observer prepared [to record]. > * soul= the Arabic word used in the verse is NAFS > http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=50 > > *DEATH & RECORD * > The longer death, which we believe will end upon resurrection, occurs when > the Angel(s) of Death extracts the thing which contains our entire recorded > life-data from our neck, as mentioned in the following verses: > > [Al-Qur’an 17:13-15, translator: Sahih International] And [for] every > person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him > on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open. > [It will be said], "Read your record. Sufficient is yourself against you > this Day as accountant.” Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit > of] his soul*. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of > burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We > sent a messenger. > * soul= the Arabic word used in the verse is NAFS > http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=17 > > [Al-Qur’an 56:83-87, translator: Literal (word by word)] Then why not when > it reaches the throat, And you (at) that time look on, And We (are) nearer > to him than you but you (do) not see, Then why not, if you are not to be > recompensed, Bring it back, if you are truthful. > http://islamawakened.com/quran/56/83/ > > > *ALTERNATE BIOCHEMISTRY * > Of course, LIFE is or will be more than carbon-based. I've tried to > understand the following verse in this blogpost Alternate Biochemistry [ > http://signsandscience.blogspot.ca/2015/03/alternate-biochemistry.html]: > [Al-Qur’an 56:60-62, translator: Sahih International] We have decreed > death among you, and We are not to be outdone In that We will change your > likenesses and produce you in that [form] which you do not know. And you > have already known the first creation, so will you not remember? > http://searchtruth.com/chapter_display_all.php?chapter=56 > > However, all LIFE contains water as an essential component: > Do not see those who disbelieved that the heavens and the earth were a > joined entity, then We parted them and We made from [the] water every > living thing? Then will not they believe? > http://islamawakened.com/quran/21/30/ > > And present to them the example (of) the life (of) the world, like water > which We send down from the sky, then mingles with it (the) vegetation (of) > the earth then becomes dry stalks, it (is) scattered (by) the winds. And > Allah over every thing (is) All Able. > http://islamawakened.com/quran/18/45/ > > I think that similar to the way we use electricity to code, record and > transfer, water serves the same purpose in creation. There is emerging > research in the properties of water, such as memory. This field of study is > termed Digital Biology. I think our understanding will be radically changed > once we begin to understand what all can be done with water. > > Hope the above helps. > Samiya > > > > On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 5:53 PM, John Mikes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In addition to the "topic" of this note I do not ask about the ORIGIN of >> life as posted, rather ask about an identification what YOU would consider >> * "LIFE"????* >> I hope you are not caught within the terrestrial trap of C-based BIO >> cop-outs. >> (Nor the tribal superstition assigned reply about "a gift of God"). >> >> I would prefer (really?) a reply like* "CHANGE* (whatever), effectuated >> by Cc (consciousness, what I define as RESPONSE to RELATIONS, whatever - >> and in what respect they may arise). I would not restrict either Life, nor >> Cc to the (humanly) physically described world and have a hard time to >> separate the two terms. >> We have but a tiny insight into the infinite complexity (Entirety) so we >> have no idea - as per now - what domains and what 'relations' may come >> into play. >> I do not propose my thoughts to be accepted and do not want to argue FOR >> them at present. >> >> I am seeking a reply (correction, addition, negative reply, etc.) which >> then I can use to the betterment of my thinking. >> >> John Mikes >> >> We have but a ti >> >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 3/27/2016 8:15 AM, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> But the question I really want an answer to is why faith is considered >>> by God, or by anyone for that matter, to be a virtue and not a vice. >>> >>> >>> Why would a leader teach that unthinking faith in his goodness and >>> knowledge is a virtue? 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