On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

​>> ​in general it's not true that they will
>> ​
>> perceiving different things
>> ​
>> , if you were the identical copy and in a symmetrical  environment and
>> facing your original the two of you would see identical things, and if your
>> position was instantaneously exchanged with the original there would be no
>> change in your consciousness or of that of the original, neither of you
>> could even tell an exchange had occurred. So in that situation how could it
>> make sense to talk of "
>> ​
>> two different consciousnesses" when there is clearly no difference
>> between them?
>
>
> ​> ​
> And this shows that you agree (implicitly at least) that in the step 3
> case, the two identical bodies interact with quite different environment,
> and get their consciousness bifurcating/differentiating.
>

​Well of course I agree with that! One is conscious of Moscow and the other
is conscious of Washington, how could anyone say that's not a difference,
how could anyone say they're still identical?

​> ​
> The "identical copies"
>

​They were once identical but after seeing different cities ​they are now
nonidentical copies. And yet both are the Helsinki man. And that is why
establishing a personal sense of self can only come from remembering the
past and never from trying to predict the future.

​> ​
> could not predict the first person result of the differentiation.
>

​Nobody and nothing will ever be able to predict ​"*THE* first person
result of the differentiation" because after differentiation "*THE* first
person result of the differentiation" is pure triple distilled extra virgin
100% gibberish.  Nobody will ever be able to predict "sjhfhzbawhfd" either.

 John K Clark

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