On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 09:06:20PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On 8/08/2016 8:38 pm, Russell Standish wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 09:24:31AM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >>However, still no justification has been given for the assumption > >>that the duplicated consciousness differentiates on different > >>inputs. And consciousness is what computationalism is supposed to be > >>giving an account of. > >> > >Obviously different inputs does not entail the differentiation of > >consciousness. > > In duplication there is still only one consciousness: and as you > say, different inputs do not entail the differentiation of a single > consciousness (associated with a single brain/body). So why would it > be different if the body were also duplicated? > > >However computational supervenience does imply the > >opposite: differentiated consciousness entails a difference in > >inputs. > > There is no difficulty in understanding that differentiated > consciousness entails different persons, who may or may not > experience different inputs, but I doubt that differentiation of > consciousness necessarily entails different inputs - two people can > experience the same stimuli.
This directly contradicts computational supervenience. I'm pretty sure that if you read the fine print, you'll find that computational supervenience is part of the YD assumption, although that fact is often glossed over. I vaguely recall challenging Bruno on this a couple of years ago. > > >In the W/M experiment we are asked to suppose that the > >duplicated persons do, in fact, notice that they've been teleported to > >a different city, and recognise where they they've been teleported to. > > There is no difficulty in accepting that there is consciousness of > two cities, but is that one consciousness, or two? You beg the > question by referring to plural 'persons'. > Two, because each consciousness is aware of different cities. They each answer the question "Which city I am in?" in a different way, iw it is a difference that makes a difference. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Senior Research Fellow [email protected] Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
