On 12 Aug 2016, at 18:40, John Clark wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

"The" first person experience you will live is "the" experience, that both copies witnesses when I interview them both

​I saw only a apple, my friend saw only a banana, what is THE one and only fruit that BOTH me AND my friend ​​saw? Silly question.


I agree so much with you on this!

Although the question is not silly when asked to the Helsinki guy before his duplication, as he will live, assuming computationalism, two different first person continuations.

Each of them is consistent with being the Helsinki guy, but are first person inconsistent when taken together, as in this precise protocol, computationalism makes the two copies into independent individual persons. (No diary contains a description of the first person (conscious or not) experience: "I (here and now) saw directly, after opening the door the two cities").

As both copies are genuine survivors, we listen to them both, and both told us that they got a non predictable bit of information: W or M among {W, M}. With principle 1 and 2, it follows that the guy in Helsinki was in a first person indeterminacy situation, and that precise protocol suggests P(W) = P(M) = 1/2. Indeed its iteration leads naturally to Pascal Triangle and the Gaussian curve as the number of duplication is iterated.

I recall the main tip that you seem to forget all the time: to get the first person records, listen to your copies.

Bruno








John K Clark



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