Le 23 avr. 2017 09:16, "Bruce Kellett" <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> a écrit :

On 23/04/2017 5:05 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

The only direct experience I have is me, not physics.


That is solipsism.


No that would be if i'd say only me is real... That's not what I said. It's
a fact that the only *direct* experience I have is me.



Physics is an explanation of my experiences, not reality.


So your experiences are not real? If physics explains your experiences,
then physics is primary --


No, physics as such use mathematics to explain, and rely on rules of
mathematics to ascertain its explanations, as such it is dubious to make it
primary. For it to be primary, physics should not rely on inference rules.
You can't use an higher level to explain the lower feature, because if in
the lower is primary, everything should reduce to it.

Quentin

it is the reality underlying your experiences.

You said it -- I am not putting words into your mouth. I think you may be
finding that your solipsism leads to nothing but confusion.

Bruce


Quentin

Le 23 avr. 2017 4:08 AM, "John Clark" <johnkcl...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Quentin Anciaux < <allco...@gmail.com>
> allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ​ > ​
>> How can you justify logic from physics if logic is primary to prove
>> anything?
>>
>
> ​
> Physics does not need logic or mathematics or anything else to prove it's
> existence to us because we all have the ability to detect physics by direct
> experience
> ​ ,​
> ​ and that far outranks proof.​
> Humans originally
> ​ ​
> invented mathematics to better understand and manipulate the physical
> world
> ​, and logic is the stuff that produces no inconsistencies with our
> observation of that physical world. ​
>
>
>  ​John ​K Clark
>

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