Did not see the rest of the post. Le 23 avr. 2017 09:57, "Bruce Kellett" <[email protected]> a écrit :
On 23/04/2017 5:44 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: Le 23 avr. 2017 09:16, "Bruce Kellett" < <[email protected]> [email protected]> a écrit : On 23/04/2017 5:05 pm, Quentin Anciaux wrote: The only direct experience I have is me, not physics. That is solipsism. No that would be if i'd say only me is real... That's not what I said. It's a fact that the only *direct* experience I have is me. And you are a physical being.... If you thereby deny the existence of the external objective world, that is most certainly solipsism. Physics is an explanation of my experiences, not reality. So your experiences are not real? If physics explains your experiences, then physics is primary -- No, physics as such use mathematics to explain, and rely on rules of mathematics to ascertain its explanations, as such it is dubious to make it primary. For it to be primary, physics should not rely on inference rules. You can't use an higher level to explain the lower feature, because if in the lower is primary, everything should reduce to it. What basis do you have for claiming that the rules of inference are of a higher level? They are perfectly easily understood as deriving from experience -- i.e., from our experience of an objective external world. No because it uses induction to establish truth, the explanation relies on logic for consistency, and unless you have an explanation of logic without logic, you have a problem, as per physicalism logic must reduce to *matter* explanation, and you can't use logic to justify itself, unless it is primary on physics itself. In fact, where else could they come from? Do you have direct intuitive access to the higher realms of Platonia? What facility do you use for this direct intuition? And how do you verify its reliability? Inference rules, and mathematics, derive fundamentally from experience, and that is our experience of the physical world. You are doing nothing more than making assertions here -- there is no argument, no evidence, no substantiation for your claims. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
