On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > Of course they couldn't have figured out which one before the
>> duplication, they couldn't figure out ANYTHING before the duplication
>> because they didn't exist before the duplication!
>
>

​> ​
> This contradicts our agreement that the H-person do survive
>

​
It contradicts nothing. We're not talking about the H-person, you're
complaining that neither the Moscow Man nor the Washington Man could
​ ​
have made a prediction, and they couldn't because *they didn't exist before
the duplication*
*​*.​

​T​
he very definition of "the Moscow Man" is the man who saw Moscow, so if
nobody has see Moscow yet then there is no Moscow Man and so the poor
​fellow​
 can't be expected to be making predictions or doing anything else.


> ​> ​
> (indeed, in both cities).
>

​Yes, in *BOTH *cities!!​

​So will the Helsinki ​Man see* both* cities? I say yes, Bruno says no. Go
figure.

​> ​
> If the person cannot figure out anything before the duplication, it
> becomes equivalent with dying,
>

​What on Earth are you talking about? The future is always uncertain, with
or without people duplicating machines.​


​ John K Clark​

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