2017-09-05 18:14 GMT+02:00 John Clark <[email protected]>: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > Of course they couldn't have figured out which one before the >>> duplication, they couldn't figure out ANYTHING before the duplication >>> because they didn't exist before the duplication! >> >> > > > >> This contradicts our agreement that the H-person do survive >> > > > It contradicts nothing. We're not talking about the H-person, you're > complaining that neither the Moscow Man nor the Washington Man could > > have made a prediction, and they couldn't because *they didn't exist > before the duplication* > **. > > T > he very definition of "the Moscow Man" is the man who saw Moscow, so if > nobody has see Moscow yet then there is no Moscow Man and so the poor > fellow > can't be expected to be making predictions or doing anything else. > > >> > >> (indeed, in both cities). >> > > Yes, in *BOTH *cities!! > > So will the Helsinki Man see* both* cities? I say yes, Bruno says no. > Go figure. >
You can insist with all the bad faith you have (and you have more than plenty), there will never be a first person experience which is 'seeing both cities', that simply does not exist. Go peepee elsewhere. > > > >> If the person cannot figure out anything before the duplication, it >> becomes equivalent with dying, >> > > What on Earth are you talking about? The future is always uncertain, > with or without people duplicating machines. > > > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
