On 05 Sep 2017, at 18:14, John Clark wrote:

On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Of course they couldn't have figured out which one before the duplication, they couldn't figure out ANYTHING before the duplication because they didn't exist before the duplication!

​> ​This contradicts our agreement that the H-person do survive

​It contradicts nothing. We're not talking about the H-person, you're complaining that neither the Moscow Man nor the Washington Man could​ ​have made a prediction, and they couldn't because they didn't exist before the duplication​.​

That contradicts your statement that the H-episode belongs to the life of both copies.






​T​he very definition of "the Moscow Man" is the man who saw Moscow, so if nobody has see Moscow yet then there is no Moscow Man and so the poor ​fellow​ can't be expected to be making predictions or doing anything else.

​> ​(indeed, in both cities).

​Yes, in BOTH cities!!​ ​So will the Helsinki ​Man see both cities? I say yes, Bruno says no. Go figure.

He will see both cities from the 3-1 view.

Obviously, The H-man will see only one city in his first person views accessible from Helsinki, as witnessed by the personal diaries.

Bruno






​> ​If the person cannot figure out anything before the duplication, it becomes equivalent with dying,

​What on Earth are you talking about? The future is always uncertain, with or without people duplicating machines.​

​ John K Clark​





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