On 3/27/2018 5:20 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:


On 27 March 2018 at 09:35, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 3/26/2018 3:19 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:

    If you are not and never can be aware of it then in what sense is
    it consciousness?

    Depends on what you mean by "it".  I can be aware of my
    consciousness, without being aware that it is different than it
    was before; just as I can be aware of my consciousness without
    knowing whether it is the same as yours, or the same as some robot.


If I am given a brain implant to try out for a few days and I notice no difference with the implant (everything feels exactly the same if I switch it in or out of circuit),

If it is a whole brain, then switching it will also switch memories and it will be impossible for you to say whether or not it "feels the same".

everyone I know agrees there is no change in me, and every test I do with the implant switched in or out of circuit yields the same results, then I think there would be no good reason to hesitate in saying yes to the implant. If the change it brings about is neither objectively nor subjectively obvious, it isn't a change.

Ex hypothesi your external behavior is the same (at least insofar as your friends can judge).

But my question wasn't whether you should accept the implant or not.  That would depend on a lot of other things and wouldn't necessarily be ruled out even if you noticed your consciousness to be different.

Brent



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