On 3/27/2018 9:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is non zombies with mechanism, not because we can derive consciousness
from body-behaviour, but because we just cannot do that, as their are no really
“body-behavior”, as there are no bodies: the intelligence and the consciousness
is a collective works of all numbers or all combinators or all Turing Universal
Machines. Every bodies or every numbers are zombies, in some sense, but the
soul is in the actual true relations.
You're retreating into metaphysics and avoiding the problem. If I build
two robots that are equally intelligent and human like in their behavior
(but not assuming them be identical in behavior) can I make one that is
conscious and the other either not-conscious or conscious in a very
different way that I won't be able to recognize as such? Or to give a
more concrete biological example, is the consciousness of an octopus
similar to that of a mouse; or does the very different neural structure
imply a difference in consciousness?
Brent
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