On 3/26/2018 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
You retreat into what is possible.  My question is much more directly pragmatic.  If I actually made a silicon based replacement for your brain that had the same input/output would you consciousness be different if the replacement processed the information differently...and how could you or we know?

Not necessarily, unless you mean all my possible behaviour, including the infinite one. For a finite time, a zombie might be able to imitated me, or some of my behaviour enough well to fail people.

The level of substitution is more precise than “behaviour”, as what is maintained is the behaviour of the relevant entities at some level, this might includes all the internal inputs and outputs of all particular neurons. I think I have already said that I tend to think that the substation level is the particles/waves up to the Heisenberg uncertainty.

The problem with that level of substitution is that the wave-function of the brain (or even of one neuron) is an extreme idealization.  The brain (or neuron) as a quantum system not isolated and will be entangled with a lot of the environment, including that outside the body.  The is no such thing as "the wave-function of a brain".

But I raised the question precisely because of this extreme disconnect between discussions of the "level of substitution" and the "consciousness as detected by behavior".

Brent

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