> On 3 Apr 2018, at 07:22, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 3/31/2018 1:30 AM, Russell Standish wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 05:14:21PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> Now, is a jellyfish conscious? >>> >>> I bet they are, but not far away from the dissociative and constant >>> arithmetical consciousness (of the universal machines). >> As I'm sure you're aware, I disagree with this. Jellyfish appear to be >> quite simple automatons, with a distributed neural network, not any >> brain as such. However, my main reason for disagreeing is that >> anthropic reasoning leads us to conclude that most species of animal >> are not conscious. Our most typical animal is a nematode (for instance >> your favourite - the planarians), but even most insects cannot be >> conscious either. >> > > In these discussions I always wonder what kind of consciousness is meant? > > 1. Perception. light/dark acid/base touch... > 2. Self location relative to things. Prey/predators > 3. Self relative to others. Sex and territory and rivals > 4. Abstractions. Number geometries > 5. Self reflection. Theory of minds. Language
It is any form of knowledge. It is the raw consciousness of the worms disliking the lack of comfort impression when, say, it is eaten by a little mammals. It is []t, with any weak Theaetetical reading of the box. It is needed for any of your 5 more special use that you mention. Bruno > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
