On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 3:55:37 AM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 2:30:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> On 28 Sep 2018, at 20:11, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> My claim: Synthetic biology changes the definition of "program”. 
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>> If that is true, it would be a rather bad news for synthetic biology.
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>> Program/machine is the most solid mathematical epistemic notion, because 
>> it has that “miraculous” Church’s thesis. This lacks for provability, 
>> definability, representability, etc.
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>> So, I doubt very much that synthetic biology needs to change the notion 
>> of program.
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>> You might explain why you think so. You might explain what is synthetic 
>> biology too.
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>> Bruno
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>>> If I have a synbio (synthetic biology) program for a life form that 
>>> could attack a disease, if it is just transformed into a simulation that 
>>> runs in a MacBook, it me does no good. But it could via a 
>>> biocompiler/assembler be transformed to an object that "runs" inside me.
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> I don't think *any* notion is "solid" (or fixed) - and that includes in 
> particular what a program/machine is, or any definition of provability, etc.
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> Sartre: Existence precedes essence.
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>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_precedes_essence
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> Rorty: The world does not speak. Only we do.
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> http://neamathisi.com/new-learning/chapter-7-knowledge-and-learning/richard-rorty-on-truth-and-language
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> To see what synthetic biology is, check out synthetic biology textbooks:
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>      https://www.google.com/search?q=synthetic+biology+books
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> To see what it is doing, check out the conferences: 
> https://2018.synbiobeta.com/
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> The outputs of biocompilers/assemblers - a synbio program is transformed 
> into a living object - is more than transforming it into a MacBook machine 
> language abject.
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Maybe a Freudian slip? :)

- pt

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