On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 12:15 PM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
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> >>You can't do metaphysics with a scientific attitude, if you could it 
>>> wouldn't be metaphysics, it would just be physics. Metaphysics means 
>>> unscientific speculation about physics.
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> *>That is why I prefer the term theology.*
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> That's pretty silly, metaphysics is a vastly better word to use in 
> philosophical speculation. Both metaphysics and theology are unscientific 
> but theology necessarily implies God while metaphysics doesn't.  
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>> > *Of course I always mean “fundamental science”.*
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> Theology isn't science, fundamental or otherwise. 
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>> *> The original question of the greeks* [.........
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> Sorry, I didn't hear what you said after that, I fell asleep.
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> John K Clark 
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Those in the pragmatist tradition of *Richard Rorty* 
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Rorty ] (if a decade is enough for 
a "tradition" to be established) might say if physics (or scientific 
theories generally) is [useful] fiction, metaphysics is fictional 
criticism. 

- pt

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