On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:09 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

>>There are 2 ways this can be done:

1) With a wet Turing Machine (aka a brain made of matter)
> 2) With a dry Turing Machine (aka a computer made of matter)
> Both methods work fine.
>


*>That is fine FAPP. Meaning: it is not fine when doing metaphysics with
> the scientific attitude.*


You can't do metaphysics with a scientific attitude, if you could it
wouldn't be metaphysics, it would just be physics. Metaphysics means
unscientific speculation about physics.

*>  you cannot invoke “matter” if you want associate consciousness to that
> intelligent behaviour,*


If? Without that association there is no alternative to solipsism. And
without matter you can't have intelligent behavior, or even unintelligent
behavior.

*> because the consciousness itself will have to associate itself with the
> infinitely many computations,*


That of course is nonsense.

> *You forget the fact that the physical reality is not the only thing
> capable of emulating Turing machine, the elementary arithmetical reality,
> in fact all models of Robinson Arithmetic* [blah blah blah blah]


You've been telling us for years about the wonders of Robinson arithmetic
but stop talking about it and do something with it! Start the Robinson
Computer Corporation and become the world's first trillionaire by this time
next year.

John K Clark

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