On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 7:05:17 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > No one is refuting the existence of matter, only the idea that matter is > primary. That is, that matter is not derivative from something more > fundamental. > > Jason >
I can understand an (immaterial) computationalism (e.g. *The universal numbers. From Biology to Physics.* Marchal B [ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26140993 ]) as providing a purely informational basis for (thinking of) matter and consciousness, but then why would *actual matter* need to come into existence at all? Actual matter itself would seem to be superfluous. If actual matter is not needed for experientiality (consciousness), and actual matter does no exist at all, then we live in a type of simulation of pure numericality. There would be no reason for actual matter to come into existence. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
