> On 11 Dec 2018, at 09:31, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 7:05:17 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > No one is refuting the existence of matter, only the idea that matter is > primary. That is, that matter is not derivative from something more > fundamental. > > Jason > > > I can understand an (immaterial) computationalism (e.g. The universal > numbers. From Biology to Physics. Marchal B [ > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26140993 ]) as providing a purely > informational basis for (thinking of) matter and consciousness, but then why > would actual matter need to come into existence at all? Actual matter itself > would seem to be superfluous.
The only things which are felt as actual are the relative computational state. “Actual” is the possible seen from the possible. > > If actual matter is not needed for experientiality (consciousness), and > actual matter does no exist at all, then we live in a type of simulation of > pure numericality. There would be no reason for actual matter to come into > existence. That is exactly the point. So by Occam, no need to assume it. Bruno > > - pt > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
