> On 11 Dec 2018, at 12:58, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 5:41:49 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 11 Dec 2018, at 12:11, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Nothing is "confirmed" and "made precise". >> >> (Derrida, Rorty, …) > > That would make Derrida and Rorty into obscurantism. Confirmation does not > make an idea true, but it is better than nothing, once we postulate some > reality. > > Some “philosophies” prevents the scientific attitude, like some “religions” > do, although only when they are used for that purpose. Some philosophies > vindicate their lack of rigour into a principle. That leads to relativisme, > and obscurantism. It looks nice as anyone can defend any idea, but eventually > it hurts in front of the truth. > > Bruno > > > > Have you read some of the Opinions* or watched some of the (youtube) lectures > of Rutgers math professor Doron Zeilberger? > > I've been following him like forever. > > * e.g. > Mathematics is so useful because physical scientists and engineers have the > good sense to largely ignore the "religious" fanaticism of professional > mathematicians, and their insistence on so-called rigor, that in many cases > is misplaced and hypocritical, since it is based on "axioms" that are > completely fictional, i.e. those that involve the so-called infinity. Mechanism proves this. Arithmetic, without infinity axiom, even without the induction axiom, is the “ontological things”. Induction axioms, infinity, physics, humans, etc. belongs to the phenomenology. The phenomenology is not less real, but its is not primary, it is second order, and that fiction is needed to survive, even if fictionally.
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