> On 1 Jun 2019, at 11:26, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 1, 2019 at 3:11:50 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 31 May 2019, at 14:13, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List >> <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: >> >> But you just said in another post that you are familiar with Roger Penrose >> writing about non-computational phenomena. How do you reconcile >> non-computational phenomena with computationalism ? > > Despite his non valid use of Gödel’s incompleteness theorem, Penrose is > coherent with my reasoning. He believes in primitive matter and reject > mechanism. I keep mechanism and reject materialism. My simpler result staring > the whole thing is that Mechanism and Materialism are incompatible. > > We have NOT MAT v NOT MEC, > > Equivalently, we have > > MEC -> NOT MAT, > > and > > MAT -> NOT MEC > > Bruno > > > > Materialism = (Quantum)Mechanism+Experientialism > > (or just Experiential Mechanism)
Gödel’s theorem imposes the nuances between all neoplatonist modes of the self: p (truth, “god") []p (proof, the world of ideas, the Noùs) []p & p (first person experience, the soul) []p & <>t (material sharable experiment, first person plural realities) []p & <>t & p (material sensible first person experience) So you don’t need to add experimentalism, nor materialism, as they are explained from the modes of the digital machine self. Bruno > > > Husserl Revisited: The Forgotten Distinction Between Psychology and > Phenomenology > Jerry L. Jennings > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Jerry_Jennings/publication/232418268_Husserl_Revisited_The_Forgotten_Distinction_Between_Psychology_and_Phenomenology/links/568d706408aeaa1481ae545d/Husserl-Revisited-The-Forgotten-Distinction-Between-Psychology-and-Phenomenology.pdf?origin=publication_detail > > Husserl condemned the philosophy which equates experience with physical > events. Basically, the forgotten distinction between phenomenology and > psychology is that the former analyzes the essential character of various > types of conscious acts, whereas the latter studies the empirical contents of > actual subjective experiences corresponding to > actual existent environmental events. > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6aafab6d-cacc-44cb-8009-7da0d324d95d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/6aafab6d-cacc-44cb-8009-7da0d324d95d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/09570947-A82C-48B3-9524-0EF6916635AA%40ulb.ac.be.
