On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 8:16:03 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:56 AM Lawrence Crowell <goldenfield...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > *> Even if a completely libertarian system were established, the >> corporations, banks and those at their top would pretty quickly go about >> forming a government to provide a platform, a coherent set of laws etc in >> which they could effectively conduct their commerce. Of course it would be >> purely plutocratic, which in ways is not terribly different from what we >> currently have,* > > > In todays world people have no choice where they get their police > protection from, they must purchase it from the government through taxes. > If the police worked for profit making corporations and every person could > choose which corporation to buy police protection from please explain to me > how 40 million Germans could murder 6 million Jews. > > And Yes there would be disagreements between different police agencies > following different laws, but I explained in my previous post how that > could be resolved. Mostly. > > John K Clark >
In the 19th century fire departments were private, and this was the case with some police departments as well. The practice was ended because in the case of fire departments sometimes the firemen would sit back and watch a structure burn because they were owned by a non-paying customer, with the result fires could spread. Private police organizations can easily become protection rackets. In the case of Germany the Friekorps and related organizations in the early 1920s were private police-like organizations that terrorized Jews and nonconformists and which demanded protection money. The Nazis loved guns and they had their 1920s hunting lodges, so the myth of the Nazis being similar to liberals who want guns laws is ludicrous. For the life of me I do not understand what people find attractive about libertarianism. I think there are four types of social organizations; statecraft, warcraft, priestcraft and tradecraft. :Libertarians want to eliminate statecraft, when there is no historical precedent for that. The Communists tried to eliminate tradecraft, or capitalism,.as well as priestcraft. In fact there is no historical precedent of any society that functions well which eliminates any of these. This is even warcraft, where while I would love to see John Lennon's *Imagine* take root, I suspect it can't and there is no historical precedent for a society without at least some minimum of that. While I do not think there is the sort of supernatural or magical reality proposed by religion, I also think some ritual practice surrounding mythic ideas will always exist in human societies. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/bb795a06-ed63-4980-93a9-fe431470d57e%40googlegroups.com.
