On Thursday, August 22, 2019 at 3:34:02 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> > On 21 Aug 2019, at 21:17, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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> > On 8/21/2019 1:28 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: 
> >> So A explains why there is only one M possible 
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> > So what is the one possible M?  Physicist build 10 billion dollar 
> machines to try to find out.  If you can do it from your desk, let's hear 
> about it? 
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> A part of this has been already done, and I have explained it here. Once 
> you assume Mechanism, it is conceptually very simple, the physical reality 
> emerges from the conditional statistics on all computations, and it works 
> already by justifying the quantum shape of the physical reality. Only the 
> future will show if what they found with the 10 billion dollars machine 
> could have been deduced from arithmetic; or if it belongs to some 
> geographical type of reality. 
> In most case, you can bet that observation will be quicker than deduction 
> in arithmetic, but that has nothing to do with the conceptual question. 
> Arithmetic already explains why observation provides information more 
> quicker than the very hard derivation that Mechanism makes obligatory, if 
> we want to keep both the quanta and the qualia. 
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> The key, is that when we assume digital mechanism, there is just no choice 
> in the matter (sorry for the pun). 
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> Bruno 
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Even if Arithmetic "explains" (all) Matter, exactly in the sense of your 
theory:

>From a pragmatic POV, to make things (new computers, robots, vehicles, 
foods, ... ) there is no such thing as *arithmetics stores* to go to and 
get what is needed to build things out of. You have to go to *materials 
stores* to actually get what is needed to make anything.

@philipthrift

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