On Thu, Jul 11, 2024, 4:57 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:37 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> > wrote: > > *> A rock, along with many other things, can't pass a first grade >> arithmetic tes either; but that doesn't show that anything that can't pass >> a first grade arithmetic test is unintelligent or unconscious, as for >> example an octopus or a 3yr old child.* >> > > And because of their failure to pass a first year arithmetic test we would > say that a rock, an octopus and a three year old child are not behaving > very intelligently. But as I said before, the Turing Test is not perfect, > however it's all we've got. If something passes the test then it's > intelligent and conscious. If fails the test then it may or may not be > intelligent and or conscious > There are easier and harder tests than the Turing test. I don't know why you say it's the only test we have. Also: would passing the Argonov test (which I described in my document on whether zombies are possible) not be a sufficient proof of consciousness? Note that the Argonov test is much harder to pass than the Turing test. Jason > See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > asb > > > >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0VcZSw-%2Bk1McSRRw6DJbwpCz7efp1fA1C9jkRz9xe%2B7Q%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0VcZSw-%2Bk1McSRRw6DJbwpCz7efp1fA1C9jkRz9xe%2B7Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUhCVnObf57LOsMANYXGhd27FL6bJs7_wSUpAK7Wj3ZR1g%40mail.gmail.com.
