On 7/11/2024 1:56 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:37 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    /> A rock, along with many other things, can't pass a first grade
    arithmetic teseither; but that doesn't show that anything that
    can't pass a first grade arithmetic test is unintelligent or
    unconscious, as for example an octopus or a 3yr old child./


And because of their failure to pass a first year arithmetic test we would saythata rock, an octopus and a three year old child are not behaving very intelligently.
*In case you've forgotten, the Turing test was based on text only communication between an interlocutor asked to distinguish between a computer pretending to be a human and a man or woman pretending to be a woman or man.  It's already been passed by some LLM's by dumbing-down their response.  It may be all you've got but it's a very poor test that can't tell the difference between a 3yr old and a rock.

Brent*


But as I said before, the Turing Test is not perfect, however it's all we've got. If something passes the test then it's intelligent and conscious. If fails the test then it may or may not be intelligent and or conscious

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