--- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Comments interleaved below, partly to add a thought or 
> two but mainly to reinforce some good posts by other people.
> 
> Kirk wrote:
> >
> > The Maharishi Effect is simply a statement from the 
> > New Testament and is not new to Maharishi:
> > 
> > Matthew 18:19-20
> > 
> > 19"Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree 
> about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by 
> my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come 
> together in my name, there am I with them." 
> 
> Seems to me I've run across parallel statements in 
> other sources, like maybe in Conversations with God. 
> I'd need to check. But regardless of sources and their 
> numbers, the existence of a citation such as the one 
> above inclines me, reformed True Believer that I am, 
> to hold out hope for the truth of the Maharishi Effect.
> 
> What's the parallel theory in Scientology, I wonder? 
> Hey, let's include all the whacky cults in this dream.
> 
> Parallel thread: how much do dreams of changing 
> the world create cults, and how much do cults rely 
> on mythologies of world transformation?
> 
> Unc wrote, here and below:
> >
> > If Maharishi *really* believed that getting a certain
> > number of butt-bouncers together would create a veri-
> > fiable period of world peace, he could have done it
> > long ago.  His organization has the money.  It has
> > *always* had the money.  
> 
> His policy has always been to pour money into 
> capital improvements, not operations. "Books and 
> buildings." Like Andrew Carnegie, who'd build the 
> libraries but expected communities to stock them 
> with books and raise operating funds. At the time 
> it struck me as a good policy. But in retrospect, I'm 
> with you -- a large-scale, intermediate-term 
> demonstration would have been good.
> 
> Also, given that policy of money-for-capital-improvements 
> only, it would have been good to keep funds out of the hands 
> of his nephews.


What specifically have his nephews done with the money that you are 
aware of?

Documentation?


> 
> > The trend is clear.  There has never been a large-scale
> > attempt to prove the ME true 
> 
> Well, excepting the Taste of Utopia course in Fairfield 
> in '83 -- an event I found quite persuasive.
>  
> >  the ME?  Give me a break.  It's a fund-raising 
> > device, nothing more.  Always has been, always will be.  
> 
> Maharishi's stated goal from the outset has been 
> the spiritual regeneration of the world. When it 
> looked as if TM would be adequate to effecting that 
> transformation, that's all he promoted. When its 
> popularity started to taper off, he branched out to 
> this other stuff. 
> 
> From where I sit, I can't tell that his motives for 
> introducing sidhis and all the rest are purely 
> mercenary. The maddening thing is, his actions 
> can be explained by his originally stated intentions
> to change the world. Idealist that I am, I'm still
> willing to go along with that explanation. 
> 
>  - Patrick Gillam




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