Good list Unc, I'll answer --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What deliberate conditioning did *I* go through?
Every word you hear is conditioning. > > I took TM in 1973, SCI and checker-training in 1974-5, Lots of conditioning in the 2nd lecture (Bubble diagram) 2nd day-checking (Theory of Stress-release), group-effect. enlightenment, 'scientific validation', everything, every little thing is conditioning. You will realize this only when you leave TM or join a different group with different spiritual ideas. Conditioning is not always bad, one kind of conditioning can undo another kind (thorn removes thorn) > an advanced > > course in the UK after I joined the USAF, then the TM-Sidhis in > > 1985-ish. Went back to Fairfield once or twice for a week, and to > > DC for a week. That's over a period of 30 years... > > How many states of consciousness are there? No idea. Maybe one? > > Can one transcend directly via concentration, with > no intervening interval of "effortlessness?" Possibly. Can anyone transcende *Via* anything at all? > > Is intent or effort in meditation a good thing or a > bad thing? Depends really on the stage in meditation. There is also spontaneaous concentration. There is intent in the sidhis, > Are there physiological coorelates to enlightenment? I don't really know. there are definitly correlates to states of experience, but enlightenment is beyond experience. > > Are the Vedas the primary "source of all knowledge?" Depends how abstract you define them. > Is thought in meditation a result of the release of > stress or is it an indication that the meditator is > just being lazy about entertaining thoughts during > meditation? It could be both, in fact it can be catharsis or just laziness or a mixture of both. But maybe laziness is just okay. After all, what do you want to achieve? There is nowhere to go... > > Can enlightenment be intellectually understood? No. > > Does "stress" have anything to do with the lack of > realization of enlightenment? One is more relaxed when one is enlightened, because unecessary mental activity falls away, but you could still have stress I think. > Is it Ok to be a TM teacher or a student at MUM > and openly see teachers from other spiritual > traditions? YES. Especially if you haven't seen any enlightened person before. If you want to be devoted to only ONE teacher, it should come from inside and should not be enforced by fear. > > Is it Ok to learn and practice meditation techniques > other than TM along with TM? If they don't interfere directly, why not? > Is it Ok to "excommunicate" from the organization > someone who sees other teachers or practices other > techniques than TM? No, but its their thing. Then the person will know where to go ahead. > Can the enlightened make mistakes? Nobody can do any mistakes, because its all Gods will. But from the surface point of view anbody can make mistakes. > Is there such a thing as "the laws of nature?" You would have to define it. Physical LoN there are > Does Maharishi have the ability to accurately "see" > the future and thus make "proclamations" about it? I don't know. He sometimes makes astonishing predictions I must admit > Is the effortlessness of TM unique among meditation > techniques? No. there are other methods using effortlessnes. > Is TM the "best" or most effective method of meditation > available? Not in my opinion. But it is very good for many people. Its good for many people who would have problems with other techniques, and that are many. And it is the one to carry you through all the way, for some people. > > They're just questions, man. But if you think about it, > each of the "right answers," according to the TM dogma, > was taught to you. I call that conditioning. Thank you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
