--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@...> wrote: > > Vaj, so what you are saying is that categorically no TM/TM-Sidhi practitioner > could ever become enlightened because the technique(s) are fundamentally > flawed. So all reports of enlightenment experiences are either lies are > conditions of mind?
Since everything out there is the product and perception/appreciation of the conditioned mind, and is a lie (in that it is not substantive), well, yes. Enlightenment IS a pretty funny concept. The concept posits bondage (addiction is another word, but one that appears to freak people out)to impermanent mind states and outer structures. Yet the latter is a mirage. AS IF there is a bondage reality and an enlightened reality! > > --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > From: Vaj <vajradhatu@...> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 3:03 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 2, 2011, at 2:43 PM, emptybill wrote: > It would be so much easier for you if your would write and then store on your > computer a simple statement that TM practitioners cannot and will never > become "enlightened".You could also throw around a couple of phrases like > "nitya-samadhi" or "bhava samadhi" and categorically deny that these states > of consciousness are possible for anyone doing TM.You could even opine that > TM practitioners can't go beyond asmita because they indulge in laya during > meditation. Any TM-er claiming to do so then automatically becomes a layin > yogi like Maharishi.Why don't you write it up now? It would be so very > good-ol' buddi-suttwa of you.It would be easier to point to the science done > on yogis in turitatita and then show a brief synopsis of the physiological > changes in long-term TMers. > My fave was when the TM Org issued press releases on their long waited for > CC'er: he'd been found and they had the EEG's to prove it! > And then the Enlightened One left, finding out he had a rare type of sleep > disorder that kept him from falling completely asleep! > > I say give 'em more rope and watch them hang themselves; I mean it's > endlessly entertaining and chronic narcissism is relatively harmless. >
