--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > categorically deny that these states of consciousness are possible for > > > anyone doing TM.You could even opine that TM practitioners can't go > > > beyond asmita because they indulge in laya during meditation.> > > > > > Imagine Vaj on one extreme and Bevan Morris on the other joining hands over a > joint-declaration about the positive value of meditation without a little > reconciliation of position. Evidently the ultra-buddhists like Vaj out in > the world are saying TM can't happen and is no good, the ultra-TM'ers are > arguing that buddhism by definition is concentration in practice and hence > concentration as a meditation practice is no good (second introductory > prep-lecture). Could they ever get together on something larger? > >
It's funny, each given their own experience, could ultra-Buddhists and ultra-TM'ers get together to issue a joint-statement that meditation is good and that meditation not only ought to be practiced but that it should be practiced, for instance as public policy in all public schools for good reasons of neurophysiology. > > > > Almost couldn't believe my ears when I once heard 'laya' pronounced > > > by Maharishi as the Finnish word 'läjä' (j = y in yes; ä ~= a in cat), > > > meaning 'a heap'. The expression 'lehmän läjä' (a cow's heap) has a > > > somewhat specialiced meaning: > > > > > > > Do the finnish have a version that rolls off the tongue like, 'bull-shit'? > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6hkztgg > > > > > > It's true that according to the last suutra of aSTaadhyaayii > > > (a a [sic!]), short a-sound in Sanskrit is somewhat reduced, > > > but the reduction is usually so small that I can't hear > > > the qualitative difference between a and aa (long a). I gather > > > native speakers of English might be able to hear that difference > > > more easily, because vowel reduction is such a prominent feature of > > > English. > > > > > >
