--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <sparaig@> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> > > > On Mar 9, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > I genuinely want to know which techniques out there are 
> > > > > effortless and do not require concentration.
> > > > 
> > > > You must've missed the "TM is not effortless" thread here 
> > > > sometime ago. TM is *easy* but not truly effortless. 
> > > 
> > > BS. No effort is required to do TM. Some effort mayhappen on 
> > > occasssion, and obsessing about how much or how little, if
> > > any, is 
> > > detrimental, but no effort is required. 
> > 
> > BS. You're supposed to start by thinking something
> > in particular (the mantra). I've practiced techniques 
> > in which no such artificiality is required.
> 
> What is the specific thing you're thinking? How do you know its 
> your "mantra?"

There *is* no mantra, or any other such artificiality, 
in the techniques I'm talking about. They are truly 
effortless, involving nothing more than paying atten-
tion to what is already going on.








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