--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 21, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Vaj wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Jul 21, 2006, at 7:29 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jul 21, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>> I've never heard anything other than that.  I never
> >>>>> heard that Guru Dev himself gave MMY the technique.
> >>>>
> >>>>  On 8th July 1971 in Amherst, U.S.A., Maharishi Mahesh Yogi made
> >> the
> >>>> following statement which contradicts the assumption that he never
> >>>> claimed the TM technique came from Guru Dev Shankaracharya Swami
> >>>> Brahmanand Saraswati.
> >>>>
> >>>> 'But the great impact of Guru Dev, in his lifetime, in bringing
> >> out so
> >>>> clearly and in such simple words, this technique of TM. And his,
> >> his
> >>>> blessing for, for this movement which came out much after he left
> >> his
> >>>> body. Because there was no, no occasion during his lifetime for,
> >> for
> >>>> any of his intimate blessed disciples to go out of his presence
> >> and
> >>>> that's why this any such movement to bless the world couldn't have
> >>>> started during his time'.
> >>>
> >>> As has been repeated here before many times
> >>
> >> (Which must make it true...)
> >>
> >> , and also verified by
> >>> Dana Sawyer in his research with SBS's sect the Dandis
> >>
> >> Documentation, please.  On what basis was it "verified"?
> >
> >
> > You'd have to ask Dana. He's talked to many of these guys. I have  
> > his article on the Dandis and it may mention it simply in passing,  
> > as what they do with householders.
> >
> > Keep in mind there are teachers in the Shank. tradition who will  
> > realize a certain student is ripe for non-dual meditation and teach  
> > them a method that isn't as dualistic as meditation with an object.
> > 
> >
> 
> Very interesting comment on Mahesh's lack of credibility that  
> validates much of what I've shared:
> 
>  > How do educated middle and upper middle class
>  >Indians view MMY and the TMO? How do other saints in India view MMY?
> 
> Pandits who are on the MMY payroll speak highly of him. No one else  
> does.
> That's my experience. In Banaras, where some of the most respected
> pandits in India reside, his name is mud. He has a reputation for
> catering to big money, movie stars, and that ilk. In the religious
> community he is perceived as an uppity, low caste manipulator. Frankly,
> outside of his own org I've never heard a positive comment about him  
> while
> in India these past eleven trips.
>

One reason he left India, I'm sure.BTW, how many of those most respected 
pandits ever sat 
next to Tate Wale Baba with their hand on his knee?






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