--- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > Isn't this forum open to all for public discussion? > > > Yet you go out of your frame constantly. Saying: > > > 'Fuck off and die' claiming this to be just a nice > > > american idiom. > > > > Contrary to what Judy told you, it really *is* a > > fairly innocuous American idiom. > > You really do the culture here an injustice by your statement > above. No one I've ever known uses such a statement like this > innocuously.
You live in a very protected neighborhood then. :-) Working on Wall St. in New York, in offices filled with well-educated stockbrokers, traders, and pro- grammers, I would estimate that I heard this phrase a dozen times a day. That's where I developed a liking for it (along with "Go figure."). It conveys the idea of "go away and stop wasting my time and yours" better than almost any other, and with a remarkable economy of language. In the offices I worked in (Citibank and Salomon Brothers), many people turned it into an acronym (FOAD) and wrote it out on little signs so that they could hold up the sign and tell someone to go away without even having to pause their phone conversations to do so. :-) > Anyone I know, myself included would be very offended by > the use of such a term directed at them. Maybe you need a period of time in New York to work out that fear of language thang, eh? That IS what we're talking about, right? You give certain words power over you, to the point that you're even afraid to spell out the first word in phrase while complaining about it here. > The reason I bring this up is that the US has enough > problems these days without those who are not American > being told that 'f off and die' is something bantered > about in common conversation. You'd prefer that they be told lies about America? Perhaps you should go to work for the While House. :-) This phrase may not be common everywhere, but it certainly has been in several places I've lived. I won't say otherwise just because you want people to beleive that America is a better place than it really is. Not everyone is afraid of words, Jim. Interestingly, I've found that those who believe in the "magic beans" theory of mantras often also believe that certain common curse words are "dirty" or inappropriate. I don't believe in either theory, so I'll use language as I please, thanks. It WASN'T polite, but with regard to Michael, I think it was necessary for him to get the point that I really DON'T have any interest in conversing with him in the future. Every few months he pops up and tries to get me involved in his attempts to prove his beliefs "right" and mine "wrong." I just don't care about that shit, and in the past (long before FFL) when I've tried to tell him that he Just Doesn't Get It, and tends to consider my attempts to tell him that I have no interest in arguing with him as invitation to argue more. He's a lot like another poster here in that respect. Finally I figured out that *he* is terrified of certain strong words, too, and goes away rather than hear them. Since that was the whole idea, telling him to Fuck off and die seemed faster and more preferable to saying over and over and over and over and over and over, "I'm not interested in arguing with you," and having him respond by renewing his arguments over and over and over and... If only I could find a phrase that worked with Judy... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
